Part four of this Patagonia series goes under the hood. In this resurfaced 2019 conversation, Ryan Honeyman talks with Patagonia’s Director of Philosophy, Vincent Stanley, about the operational systems that keep a values-led company honest as it scales, including what gets measured, what gets rewarded, and what gets protected when tradeoffs appear.
Vincent shares how Patagonia blends conventional business KPIs with goals like fair trade certified labor, lower-impact materials, and product durability, and how those priorities moved from a separate “environmental department” into the daily ownership of product teams. The episode also covers the reporting tools Patagonia uses to find blind spots and drive improvement, including the B Impact Assessment, the Higg Index, and the Footprint Chronicles.
From there, the conversation expands into governance, transparency, and activism. Ryan and Vincent discuss Patagonia’s benefit corporation structure and its specific public benefit purposes, the internal product “report card” that filters what makes it into the line, why repairs and resale matter as much as recycling, and when Patagonia chooses to share environmentally beneficial innovations with competitors. The episode closes with a look at how Patagonia supports employee wellbeing and civic engagement, from childcare to nonviolent civil disobedience training, and why transparency matters more in an era where companies can’t hide behind PR.
What You'll Learn
Learn how Patagonia sets conventional KPIs alongside social and environmental goals that are owned directly by product teams
Discover why fair trade certified labor became a central companywide objective and how the bonus structure gives workers control over how benefits are used
Understand how tight material constraints can increase innovation and help a company avoid racing to the bottom on cost
Learn why the Footprint Chronicles became one of Patagonia’s most powerful internal tools for educating employees about supply chains and tradeoffs
Discover why Patagonia embedded specific public benefit purposes in its benefit corporation bylaws and how that supports long-term stewardship beyond any one leader
Explore Patagonia’s product “report card” system and how durability, multifunctionality, and non-obsolescence are measured before items enter the line
Learn how Patagonia scaled repairs into one of North America’s largest apparel repair operations and why repair sits above recycling in their hierarchy
Understand how Patagonia thinks about transparency when supply chains are complex, and why they see openness as essential in an era of social media and compounding crises
Explore how Patagonia supports employee activism, including nonviolent civil disobedience training and bail support tied to training and conduct expectations
Quotations
“We’re looking at the conventional business measurements, but we also have deeply baked into the company goals for social and environmental improvement.” — Vincent Stanley
“It’s incumbent on us to communicate what we’re putting into the clothes that may not be readily apparent when you look at them the first time.” — Vincent Stanley
“The B Corp Impact Assessment is the most holistic look at the company’s practices, and we get surprises.” — Vincent Stanley
“What surprised me is the Footprint Chronicles became a major internal tool, because employees became smarter about what actually went into making the clothes.” — Vincent Stanley
“If we introduce something with a strong environmental advantage, we think it’s important not to take an exclusive and to share it with competitors from the beginning.” — Vincent Stanley
“We share what we know, and if it doesn’t look too good, you better put that out there.” — Vincent Stanley
Links Mentioned in Today's Episode
Patagonia: https://www.patagonia.com/
Patagonia Worn Wear (used gear and repairs): https://wornwear.patagonia.com/
Footprint Chronicles: https://www.patagonia.com/our-footprint/
B Lab and the B Impact Assessment: https://www.bcorporation.net/
Sustainable Apparel Coalition: https://apparelcoalition.org/
Higg Index: https://apparelcoalition.org/the-higg-index/
1% for the Planet: https://onepercentfortheplanet.org/
Bears Ears Inter-Tribal Coalition: https://bearsearscoalition.org/
Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument: https://www.blm.gov/programs/national-conservation-lands/utah/grand-staircase-escalante-national-monument
Next Economy Now podcast archive: https://www.lifteconomy.com/podcast
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